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Thakeham Parish Council
NEIGHBOURHOOD PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING – Monday 19 December 2016, Village Hall
Meeting opened: 6.30 p.m.
Present Mr R Taylor (Chair) Mrs C Hounslow Mrs C Instance
Mr D MacEachern Ms F McConnachie Mr D Scott Kerr
In attendance Mr O Richards Clerk to the Council
202. Apologies for absence
Apologies were received from Cllrs Hunt and St Clair.
203. Interests of Members
No interests were declared.
204. Minutes of the last meeting
The minutes the meeting held on 28 November 2016 were agreed and signed as a true record noted that no other responses to HDC had been agreed by delegated action since the last meeting:
205. Planning Applications for consideration
The Committee considered cases and agreed the following feedback to Horsham District Council:
DC/16/2380 (T/16/52) 8 Crescent Rise Thakeham West Sussex RH20 3NB
New rear dormers and garage conversion (revised application)
The Committee noted the amendments made to this scheme, which involved hipping the roofline of the proposed rear extension gables, but concluded that as this did not address the key aspect of its previous objection, i.e. that the size of the larger (northernmost) gable needed to be reduced.
DC/16/2614 (T/16/55) Barn at Threals Farm Threals Lane West Chiltington West Sussex
Prior Notification for Change of Use of Agricultural Barn to a residential dwellinghouse and associated operational development.
The Committee noted the context of this application, including its prior notification status (falling under section Q regulations). Further contextual factors noted by the Committee included the lack of architectural merit of the existing barn structures on this site and that several unsuccessful attempts had been made to find alternative agricultural uses for these structures. There was also some current uncertainty about the detail of Neighbourhood Plan policies relating to this case, pending clarification of HDC’s position on the Examiner’s recommendations. The Committee agreed that it was broadly open to this proposal but did not wish to comment further at this prior notification stage.
DC/16/2689 (T/16/54) Old Forge Cottage The Street Thakeham West Sussex RH20 3EP
Fell x 1 Multi Stemmed Hornbeam and Surgery x 1 Hornbeam (Works to Trees in a Conservation Area)
The Committee noted that the trees in question were threatening a retaining wall and overshadowing the house. In agreeing no objection the Committee noted the desirability of applying a condition to seek to ensure that The Street does not need to be completely closed during the works – and particularly not on a school-day, as access is required for children attending Thakeham First School.
DC/16/2791 (T/16/56) Danhill Manor Coolham Road West Chiltington Pulborough
Listed building consent for new doorway into bedroom (Listed Building Consent)
DC/16/2197 (T/16/57) Danhill Manor Coolham Road West Chiltington Pulborough
To construct a detached open-sided double garage outbuilding following the demolition of existing garage
NO OBJECTION SUBJECT TO OFFICER SCRUTINY OF MATERIALS/FINISHES
The Committee noted the background to this proposal, including the existence of previous permission to put a larger out-building in the same location. While the Committee did not object to the general aim of creating a new open timber-framed double-garage, it felt that the materials and finishes indicated as part of the off-the-shelf construction were not very sympathetic to the listed building context, and asked officers to review the detail of materials and finishes.
DC/16/2843 (T/16/58) Church View The Street Thakeham Pulborough
Fell x 1 Apple Tree and x 2 Cherry Trees, Surgery x 1 Japanese Maple Tree, x 1 Beech Tree,
x 1 Magnolia Tree, x 1 Cypress Hedge and Roadside Trees and Shrubs (Works to Trees in a
In agreeing no objection the Committee noted the desirability of applying a condition to seek to ensure that The Street does not need to be completely closed during the works – and particularly not on a school-day, as access is required for children attending Thakeham First School.
206. Major planning proposals
206.1 Abingworth Meadows
The Committee noted that:
Phase 2 – the Committee noted that there was no further news regarding the expected submission of an s.73 proposal for variation of housing mix/numbers. [Post-meeting note: this proposal appeared on HDC’s online portal after close of business on 19 December – under ref. no. DC/16/2835.]
Allotments detailed layout: the Committee noted that HDC had sought the parish’s comments on an updated detailed layout agreed by landscape officers under planning reference DC/15/2211. In welcoming the various improvements this layout contained the Committee also agreed the following feedback to HDC, relating generally to the expectation that the Parish Council will become the freeholder of this land and infrastructure, and in particular that the parish expects to be allowed to manage that freehold with sensible flexibility, and without inheriting unnecessarily restrictive conditions relating to:
Maintenance of grassed areas, hedging and trees: there should be no restrictive conditions on future arrangements that the PC will put in place in this regard, including the options to manage this work itself, or to sub-contract elements to a future Allotment Society;
Plot layouts: the current drawings were accepted as the specification of will be delivered as part of Abingworth S106 commitments, but looking beyond that there needs to be flexibility to respond to patterns of demand, and therefore no restrictions regarding possible future changes to plot layouts outside of the non-hardstanding areas.
Planting arrangements: likewise, the current planting specification is accepted, but there should be no future restrictions in relation to possible future changes to planting of hedges, grassed areas, renewal/extension of fruit tree planting etc., beyond perhaps a general ‘native species’ steer.
Other structures: the Committee agreed that future flexibilities needed to allow for the erection of sheds on at least the larger plots (subject to any rules to be established by the PC/Allotment Society in relation to size, materials and location on plot), and also for the possibility of a small communal ‘lock-up’ building for storage of maintenance tools and other equipment (e.g. shared-use strimmers, wheelbarrows etc.). These things needed to be permitted and not constrained by conditions, subject to the general point that no structures should be visible above the ridgeline from the south.
Pre-school design iterations: the Committee noted that there had been recent iteration of the detail of this design, including consultation with the pre-school management group, with a view to ensuring the delivery of the pre-school building on time for the start of the 2017/18 academic year. It was expected that a further s.73 application would emerge shortly, reflecting the outcome of these design iterations, and possible further associated S106 benefits.
S278 specification relating to the northern B2139/access road junction: the Committee noted that the Chair and Chair of Environment Committee had helped to review and confirm that this updated specification was in line with recent site discussions relating to sight-lines.
206.2 Meadowbrook (Crest Nicholson, Water Lane)
The Committee noted that liaison with Crest Nicholson was ongoing in relation to boundary treatment improvements suggested by TPC. (Action: Clerk to chase again.)
207. Neighbourhood Plan update
The Committee noted that, following a recent meeting involving members of the Steering Group and HDC, the parish was currently awaiting a clear statement from HDC regarding its position on the Examiner’s recommendations, as they relate to further detailed comments made by the SG and PC. HDC officers had indicated that they intended to accept the great majority of the Examiner’s recommendations without amendment. However, there remain some matters to be clarified: in particular, the parish does not accept the logic of the Examiner’s proposal that the referendum area should be extended into neighbouring parishes, and HDC’s lawyers are being consulted on this. (Action: Clerk to distribute communication from HDC when received.)
208. Planning Applications permitted/refused/withdrawn since the last meeting
The Committee noted the following District-level decisions, and that designated members should follow through with monitoring the progress of permitted applications.
40/42 Crescent Rise, Storrington
DC/15/2084 (T/15/38) Demolition of dwelling and erection of 2 detached dwellings with integral garages. (DME)
Planning Cttee 26/10/15
DC/16/2105 (T/16/46) Revised design for plot 1 (previous approval no DC/15/2084) plot 2 to remain as approved (DC/16/1638) (DME)
Planning Cttee 24 October 2016
Members noted that the proposal involved minor amendments to the existing permission, which Council had previously supported.
Permitted 30/11/2016 (No notable conditions attached)
DC/16/2296 (T/16/50) Variation of condition 1 and 4 of previously approved application DC/15/2084 relating to construction of a garden shed amended parking layout and layout of Plot 2
9 The outbuilding hereby permitted shall be occupied solely for purposes ancillary to the occupation and enjoyment of Plot 2, 40 Crescent Rise, Thakeham as a dwelling and shall not be used as a separate unit of accommodation.
Stringers Cottage, Storrington Road Thakeham RB20 3EQ
DC/16/2196 (T/16/47) Removal of existing hedgerow and replacement with a 1.8m high brick wall (CH)
NO OBJECTION SUBJECT TO ADDITION OF SUPPORT PILLARS
This proposal related to a requirement from WSCC Highways to remove an existing hedge in order to ensure adequate sight-lines at the soon-to-be-remodelled southern Abingworth site entrance. A replacement structure to protect the privacy of the householder’s garden was considered reasonable. While in general the parish’s Design Statement and draft Neighbourhood Plan disparage new brick boundary walls, members noted that in this case alternatives involving a lower wall, wooden fence and/or relocated hedge had been explored and rejected by the householders. Given the overriding safety considerations, members agreed that the proposed 1.8m brick wall, in a brick bond matching the existing house was the least-worst option. However, the Committee agreed to ask officers to seek agreement that the wall should be supported by an appropriate number of internal pillars.
Permitted 25/11/2016 (no special conditions)
DC/16/1702 Little Paddocks, Crays Lane
Appeal against refusal of application for creation of 1.5 storey rear extension for disabled facilities.
(TPC did not object).
209. Upcoming applications
There were no new applications to consider.
210. Public participation session
No matters raised.
211. Any other business for noting or inclusion on a future agenda
211.1 Cllr Scott-Kerr flagged that surgery was being undertaken to the large oak tree near Rydon CC.
Meeting closed: 7.40 p.m.
Date of next meeting: Monday 23 January 2017, at 6.30pm.d to review and confirm that this updated specification was in line with recent site discussions relating to sight-lines.
The Committee noted that, following a recent meeting involving members of the Steering Group and HDC, the parish was currently awaiting a clear statement from HDC regarding its position on the Examiner’s recommendations, as they relate to further detailed comments made by the SG and PC. HDC officers had indicated that they intended to accept the great majority of the Examiner’s recommendations without amendment. However, there remain some matters to be clarified: in particular, the parish does